Tuesday, April 2, 2019

Ross Sullivan was the Zodiac Killer

The ZODIAC KILLER, The Story of Ross Sullivan

Ross Sullivan was a mentally ill teenager when he was committed to the California Patton State Mental Hospital in the late 1950's and early 60's after his Mom died. His Methodist Preacher father, who graduated from Yale Divinity School, earned a Masters Degree from Harvard and his Doctorate from Princeton, effectively abandoned his family at that point. His family had moved to Glendale California from Binghamton New York. An odd coincidence, Ross and Rod Serling both attended Binghamton High School. There is a great deal of evidence that he may have been the Zodiac Killer who terrorized California in the late 1960's.


























My interest in crime started when I was five years old.



Lizzie Borden was the daughter of Fall River, Massachusetts millionaire banker Andrew Borden, a member of one of the poorer offshoots of the powerful Borden Family. Andrew regained his family's position by becoming Fall River Massachusetts most successful undertaker. A story told about Andrew at the time gives you an idea of what kind of man he was. He had a customer who was well over 6' tall, but only had a casket for someone of average height, about 5' 8", Andrew's solution was simple, he sawed off the mans feet and ankles to make him fit.  Lizzie's Mom Sarah died when she was young and she hated her Stepmother Abby Borden. On August 4, 1892 someone murdered her father and stepmother inside the house with a hatchet, a particularly grisly way to kill someone. Both victims were attacked with "Hideously Persistent" fervor, the kind of overkill which usually indicates that the murderer knew his victims. Lizzie was one of only two people known to be in the house at the time of the murder, the other was family maid Irish Bridget Sullivan. Lizzie inherited the equivalent of several million dollars as a result of the murder. Bridget got nothing, except a substantial monetary gift from Lizzie and her sister Emma after Lizzie was tried for the murder and found not guilty, because as one juror of the all male jury said, no woman would kill someone with an ax, they would use poison. Underestimating Lizzie, proves she was smarter than everyone else.
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The History Channel's Hunt for the Zodiac Killer starred FBI Agent Kenneth Mains(L) and LAPD Homicide Detective Sal Barbera(R) presented the investigation of the Zodiac Killer in a way that made sense. Regrettably, The History Channel chose not to renew the show for a second year. 


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Zodiac Victims:

 
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David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen went to a secluded spot on Lake Herman Road to spend some "alone time". They were killed by the gate on the road to the Naval Radar Station on 12-28-1968. At the time an Unknown Assailant, who would later admit who his identity was, as the Zodiac Killer, after his next crime, he would voluntarily take credit for this crime too.

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Darlene Ferrin and Mike Mageau went to neck in a lover's lane, the parking lot of Blue Rock Springs State Park, when they were attacked by a large man with a very bright flash light. Mike was convinced he was a policeman, until he started firing. Mike survived, Darlene did not. When Zodiac called police to report the murder, he took credit for his previous murder.

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The young couple were under the tree to the right, while they first saw Zodiac under the tree to the left. With heavy rains the isthmus disappears and the site becomes an island. 






The lake Berryessa attack on September 27, 1969 occurred on the little isthmus of land which during high water became an island. Cecelia Shepard and Brian Hartnell were stabbed repeatedly under the tree. A size 10 boot print was found at the crime scene. Bryan survived, Cecilia would not. One "footnote," the footprint expert who looked at this said that he could tell the man must have weighed at least 200 lbs. 


The original Zodiac Killer wanted poster from eyewitness survivor descriptions. Ross Sullivan was born on August 28, 1941. 
The popular mystery series Charlie Chan had one movie called  Treasure Island, which told the story of a serial killer calling himself The Zodiac. The movie was made in 1939, rebroadcast on TV repeatedly during the 1950's. 

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Tim Holt Comic Book from July 1952 when Ross Sullivan was 11-years-old. Here is Ross on his Binghampton NY High School Swim Team. 


Ross learned to swim at the Binghamton YMCA at which Harold Sullivan was the Youth Minister.


Zodiac 

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A Halloween Card sent to the San Francisco Chronicle on October 27th 1970 along with the 340 Cipher, which remained unsolved for 40 years. Note the similarities with Tim Holt's Wheel of Death. 






Palace Stationery Store was within a couple of miles of Ross Sullivan's home in Santa Cruz. In his letters to the San Francisco Chronicle, Zodiac referred to the Gilbert and Sullivan's Play the Mikado repeatedly. Here is a reference to Titwillow, a character in the play. In the play there is another character called the Grand High Executioner. A frightening thought Zodiac and I both had the same review of the Horror Movie "The Exorcist". We thought it was a comedy, though I do spell better than he did. Note how he misspelled satirical/comedy/suicides

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While he worked at the Riverside Community College Library, Ross Sullivan stood out, wearing military fatigues, military boots but appeared shy and withdrawn. He didn't fit in with any groups and had no real friends. After the murder of Cheri Jo Bates on October 30, 1966, Ross disappeared for a few days, when he came back to work, he was wearing normal college clothes. This prompted one of the library staff to write this narrative. about why they suspected Ross. Note that Ross owned a VW Bug, just like Cheri Jo Bates. Someone sabotaged her car by disconnecting her distributor while she was in the library. When she came out of the library at 9 PM on Sunday, she tried to start her car and couldn't, per the assailant's plan. He probably offered to help her, escorting her to his car,  that is when he struck. She was murdered in an alley between two empty buildings/former homes used by the library for overflow books. A watch with a broken wrist band was found on the ground near the site of the attack.


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The broken watch tells the time of the attack was around Sunday 9:07 PM, minutes after the Riverside College Library Closed



Click on the memorandum below to read why some of the staff of the Riverside Community College Library suspected Ross Sullivan.










Poem possibly written by the Zodiac

Found carved in a desk at the library at Riverside Community College the day after Cheri-Jo Bates was murdered.

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Cheri Jo Bates photographed by the student newspaper in the College Library. Cheri Jo and Ross Sullivan's younger brother, John, living with a foster family, attended the same church. Ross knew the victim and had asked her for a date, she had turned him down.


Third from the left is Ross's Dad Methodist Youth Minister Harold Sullivan in 1956, In the very front row is John Sullivan, Ross's younger brother. who graduated from Ramona High School in Riverside in 1963.  Ross also had an another brother, Tim, who moved to San Francisco in the early 1960's then to Minnesota in the 1970's according to one report, after his Mom's death on September 12, 1959. One report is that Tim's fiance Bonnie Bartlett lived at the Vickford Apartments, less than a mile away from Geary and Mason.*


Methodist Youth Minister Harold Sullivan announced as new head of the Glendale YMCA. After his wife died, Harold left his underage son John with a foster family and apparently abandoned his mentally ill son Ross. Conventional wisdom is that the mentally MUST have an adequate support system in place to survive in society. No safety net and you end up with deeply troubled mentally ill.

“1965 — November 6: There were three pages of names in the AWOC guest register (176-178), and the events of the day showed that Tim Sullivan, 5599 Corwin Lane, Riverside, brought a truckload of food and clothing, as well as cash. With him were a number of University of California, Riverside, students including Floyd Sweet, CORE, Riverside.”  **

Ross's brother Tim was a Social Activist, even earning himself a footnote in the Congressional Un-American Activities Committee for supporting the Cesar Chavez Grape Farm Workers Strike. He would later move to Canada, after his draft number came up in 1969. ***

A friend of Tim Sullivan, Gerald Katz, offers an opinion from someone who actually knew the Sullivan family and Ross. Gerald attended Riverside Community College at the same time Ross Sullivan did. Katz establishes Ross knew Cheri Jo before the murder. A paraphrased summary below: 






Riverside Police received this letter six months after the murder, the first of many Zodiac letters.


   
Zodiac claiming credit for the Cheri Jo Bates murder. Police determined the note had been typed on a Royal Typewriter.




San Francisco Chronicle Reporter Paul Avery got another card from Zodiac, telling him that
he was doomed. Paul knew what you do when a serial killer threatens you. 




While at Glendale High School Ross Sullivan took part in a student project, making a murder mystery movie. Ross played the murderer. Shortly before his Mom died and he was committed to Patton State Mental Hospital.

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Last known photo of Ross with Library Staff. Ross was about 6'2" and 200 lbs, by the late 1970's he would weigh 300 lbs before dying of Pickwick's Syndrome in 1977.  As the 60's and 70's progressed his health declined, his mental health did too. 



Ross Sullivan's Social Security application form

CRAZY DOES NOT MEAN STUPID: Zodiac Ciphers


Sometimes it can mean incredible brilliance

The famous Zodiac 340 Cipher which has stumped the Police, FBI, British Intelligence, Interpol and CIA for over 50 years. One proposed solution shows an elegant simplicity, letters were both encoded and not if used twice in the same word. Also, it appears that the cipher is divided in 1/2, with two different systems of encoding each half. Also, an irony, he wasn't the best speller and that made his ciphers much harder to decode.  A great documentary series, The History Channel's Hunt for the Zodiac Killer. 
It is believed that the 340 Cipher has been solved, encoding with elegant simplicity, the characters were changed and offset diagonally, aided by spelling errors of Zodiac. 





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San Francisco Detective David Toschi was the model for Steve McQueen's Frank Bullitt in Bullitt (1968) and Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry (1971). Toschi was senior detective on scene after Graduate Student and Cab Driver Paul Stine was killed. 

Toschi still recalls that night in precise detail. He and Armstrong had been on call all week and had already worked three murders, including one the night before.

SFPD homicide inspectors Dave Toschi and Bill Armstrong, 1974

San Francisco Chronicle  SFPD homicide inspectors Dave Toschi and Bill Armstrong examine a murder victim’s clothing in the morgue 

“I was exhausted,” says Toschi. “I went to bed around 8 o’clock. The phone rang at 10:15. I remember exactly what the dispatcher said: ‘You’ve got a sloppy one near the Presidio. Cab driver shot in the head.’ I got dressed and went to pick up Bill in ParkMerced.
“There was blood everywhere. We thought it was a robbery from the beginning. We had witnesses, we had a description, we had fingerprints – we just figured we’re gonna get the guy. I will always wonder if he really was watching us, like he said in his letter.”  

Dave Toschi would spend the rest of his life hunting the Zodiac Killer. 


Toschi served as the model for Steve McQueen's character Frank Bullitt, in Bullitt (1968). Steve had grown up poor and got into some trouble as a kid, even serving a stint in the Boy's Republic, a progressive reform school, but the two hit it off and took a liking to each other immediately. McQueen copied Toschi's shoulder holster and quick draw for the movie. Toschi served as liaison for SFPD while the film was being made. I have included a biography of Steve on my blog, on the middle of this page: https://briankeithohara.blogspot.com/2014/11/lamar-potts-honest-georgia-sheriff-and.html

Toschi also served as a model for Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry movies.  However, Toschi and Clint never became particularly friendly, Toschi even walked out of Dirty Harry, because it was too close to reality, the Scorpio Killer was far too closely modeled on the Zodiac Case and Toschi thought that was unacceptable when it was based on a real crime which had not been solved.  

For those who are interested, George "Star Wars" Lucas was from San Francisco and took a great interest in the Zodiac case while a student at USC Film School. He became friends with Dave Toschi and named the Tatooine Toschi Station, "in honor of the SFPD inspector."

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Zodiac used Gilbert and Sullivan Mikado references in his letters. On the night Paul Stine picked up his fatal fare at Geary and Mason, the Mikado was playing at the Orpheum Theater, 1192 Market Street in the San Francisco Theatre District about a mile from Geary and Mason. Roger Pierson of the Lamplighters Troop recalls a tall, robust young man who would come to Mikado performances dressed as the Grand High Executioner a character in the play. He said the man gave off an unsettling vibe to members of the troop at the meet and greets following their performances/ Roger reckons this happened around 1969.


 

 

Orpheum Theatre San Francisco


Mason at Geary Streets of San Francisco about a mile from the Orpheum, where Zodiac hailed Paul Stine's cab.

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Cabby Paul Stine working on his graduate degree.


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Three teenagers on the 3rd Floor of this home at the corner of Cherry and Washington heard a scuffle and gunshot, looked down on the murder as it occurred and called police. They saw the perpetrator wipe the cab down for fingerprints, though he missed one, and do something to the body, we know now that he was cutting part of Paul's shirt to send with his next message to the San Francisco Chronicle, Though on the 3rd story and fairly far away, they described the perpetrator as a white male, 25 to 30 years old, 5'8" to 5'9", stocky build, reddish-brown hair worn in a crew cut, heavy-rimmed glasses and dark clothing. They last saw him casually walking north on Cherry Street. Unfortunately, the police dispatcher mistakenly described the suspect as being a black male adult. Police approaching the scene, patrolmen Donald Fouke and Eric Zelms stopped and questioned a white man briefly, taking note of the 6' tall  WHITE man with a robust build, walking away from the crime scene on Jackson Street which is parallel to the Presidio, a large Park at the end of Washington Street. Because he was walking casually, at a slow, lumbering pace and seemed unconcerned with their questioning, they let him go, they were after all looking for a black man, and proceeded to Washington and Cherry. Later SFPD Detective David Toschi would find out from the officers involved about the incident. Toschi determined that these officers had probably spoken to Zodiac.


The third story window in the roof is where the teens were, Paul Kline's cab was located by the Stop Sign approximately where the blue car is.


Entrance to the Presidio, the direction Zodiac was walking when stopped by police, who were looking for the wrong guy, thanks to the dispatcher's mistake.

Ross Sullivan died September 29th 1977, while living in an assisted living home at 2177 17th Street Santa Cruz suffering from Pickwick's Syndrome. Though he was brilliant enough to create a cipher which confounded everyone, his last job was listed as a dishwasher in a restaurant. 


Robert Graysmith wrote the most famous Zodiac book, which in turn served as the premise for the EXCELLENT movie Zodiac (2007), starring brilliant performances by Mark Ruffalo as Toschi, Robert Downey Jr. as Sagacious and loquacious Reporter Paul Avery and Jake Gyllenhaal as San Francisco Editorial Cartoonist Robert Graysmith. Zodiac Director and Marin County native David Fincher was close friends with Jennifer Aniston's husband at the time Brad Pitt. Jennifer is the one who suggested Ruffalo and Gyllenhaal for their roles. 

Graysmith believed the most viable suspect was Arthur Leigh Allen, a small time crook and pervert. But it should be noted, no substantive proof ever turned up to support Graysmith's case against him. He was in the right place for the San Francisco murders living very near Geary and Mason at the time of the Stine Murder.and having lived in Riverside California, when Cheri Jo Bates was killed. 


 




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How good a detective was Mark Ruffalo? He is slated to play Peter Falk's heir as Lt. Columbo in an upcoming movie. 




David Fincher wasn't allowed to film Zodiac's attack on Paul Stine at Washington and Cherry Street because of resident's disapproval, they were afraid filming would hurt real estate values and frighten children who live there now. That scene was shot entirely on a sound stage. They did shoot the Lake Berryessa attack on site, but had to plant two full grown Oak Trees, since the original trees died long ago after several years of drought. 




Currently, thanks to heavy rain in California the last couple of years, the lake Berryessa crime scene is an island, but the Zodiac (2007) Oak Trees appear to be thriving. 



A Man Called Intrepid, the Carl Kolchak of the Zodiac Story, 
Dave Peterson of the Vallejo Times-Herald

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Intrepid and dogged Reporter Dave Peterson of the Vallejo Times-Herald took a special interest in Ross Sullivan and wrote Riverside Police to get as much information about Ross's life in Riverside. He was the lead reporter on Farady-Jensen and Ferrin-Mageau attacks. He would track the case the rest of his life. He came to disagree with Robert Graysmith. He believed Ross Sullivan was the #1 Suspect. 
He was particularly intrigued by Ross's interest in cryptography. He was also in communication with Dave Toschi SFPD.  It turns out that his suspicion that Ross Sullivan was the most likely suspect, may have been 100% right all along. 



Ross Sullivan's Death Certificate September 29, 1977





Mentally Ill Serial Killer Jeffrey Dahmer, in hindsight his Dad said I saw the signs of his illness, but thought Jeff would grow out of it. 


Jeff with his younger brother David





Jeff, his Dad and brother David

Serial Killer and Cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer was mentally ill. His mom was mentally ill too, she was even institutionalized several times during his childhood. I remember an interview with his Dad. He took responsibility for Jeff. Like a lot of men, he dealt with a quarrelsome and troublesome marriage and his wife's mental illness by burying himself in his work, always looking for excuses to take business trips, hardly ever coming home or spending time with his wife or kids. He spoke about warning signs that Jeff was in trouble as early as 10-years-old that he either ignored or was oblivious to. Though it will be little comfort to the families of Jeff's victims, it is a road map as to what not to do. I think his message should resonate with every parent. His father found out that he had been repeatedly molested by a neighbor starting at about 8-years-old, his mom's mental illness only made a bad situation worse. His father said he noticed his behavior became odd after that, but nothing clinical. Jeff's Dad said he originally thought he would grow out of it. But as he spent less and less time at home, he didn't see Jeff's mental health decline. Later his grandmother would report she sensed something was very wrong when he lived with her after the divorce, but when he got his own apartment, everyone lost touch with him and his condition. You have to remember no DA/Judge/Police Psychologist was going to judge Jeff insane or send him to a mental health facility, he was going to prison, because his crimes were such horrific atrocities. His father told of multiple incidents when Jeff, who had very few friends, would do things like crash multiple class photos for groups he did not belong, requiring the photos to be doctored. His Dad worried that he inherited his mom's mental illness. I found interviews with Jeff's Dad fascinating because, in hindsight, he saw what went wrong. 





Nicole Childress, 17 at the time, and Sandra Smith, then 18, were returning to their homes at around midnight when they saw a naked boy running towards them.
Dazed, distressed and injured, Konerak Sinthasomphone collapsed at their feet.
Nicole, 46, said: “Because he was naked, I could see he had cuts all over his body, and there was blood running down his thighs.
“It was clear he needed help. As he stumbled towards me, he looked like a prayer had been answered. An expression of relief came over his face. When he got near, he held out his arms and collapsed to the floor.
“I didn’t know what happened to him. Whether it was drugs or a gang initiation, but he was in a bad way. As I held him, I comforted him, reassured him everything was going to be all right.”
It was then they were approached by Dahmer, aged 31 at the time. He tried to take Konerak away, saying the lad was a friend, and that he was 19 years old and drunk.
But the cousins were not convinced. Chocolate factory worker Dahmer also kept changing his story. Nicole called police from a nearby phone box and told Dahmer what she had done.
Nicole Childress was 17 when she came across the victim in the street d
She said: “He played down Konerak’s condition, calling him Jim and saying he had wandered off because he was drunk.
“But I knew something wasn’t right. He kept changing Jim to something else. He knew I didn't believe him.
“That is when I saw his evil come out. He became very aggressive towards Konerak. He was pulling him with force and twisting his arms, trying to get him away from us.
“It made no sense. Why would he give such a hard time to someone we were helping? It made me feel terribly uneasy. His demeanour had changed hugely. He was telling me, ‘This has nothing to do with you’.
“I kept asking him his friend’s name, but it kept on changing.”
When police arrived, they failed to heed the cousins’ warnings. Officers briefly went to Dahmer’s flat, but reckoned nothing was amiss and handed NAKED, bleeding 14-year-old Konerak Sinthasomphone  back to him. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/detectives-handed-naked-bleeding-child-22345017




One of the most poignant and powerful episodes of Law and Order Criminal Intent, titled "Want,"  starring Vincent D'Onofrio starred Neil Patrick Harris, was clearly based on Jeffrey Dahmer.  This episode won the prestigious Edgar Allan Poe Award for Best Writing for a TV Mystery for Rene Balcer and Elizabeth Benjamin in 2005. 


 


Adam Lanza, Mentally Ill Sandy Hook Spree Killer


Adam Lanza had no close friends, but his mom continually encouraged him to join technology and intellectual clubs in elementary and high school hoping it would give him a social life, but mostly without success, Adam would join, then drop out after a few weeks. 
After Adam Lanza massacred 20 elementary school children in Sandy Hook Connecticut, reporters interviewed his Dad, who disowned him and took no responsibility for him. I remember his mom, Nancy, begged his dad to take an interest in their mentally ill son after they separated when he was 12/13. He didn't. I think ignoring mental illness is the one strategy which never works.






Adam's parents pulled him out of school when he was in the 10th grade, almost all of Adam's social interactions stopped. Medical and school officials suggested that Adam needed medication to deal with his social isolation and mental health issues. His parents refused. He only had a relationship with his mom, who tried to interest him in hunting, which had been a family interest of both of his parents' Republican families. Nancy and his Dad bought several guns for Adam and his brother to use. Adam began an unquenchable fascination with them. Nancy's liberal Connecticut friends tried to convince her that this was a horrible idea. To no avail. 

Trump MAGA hat wearing REPUBLICAN "pro-life" Pro-NRA ROTC Cadet Nikolas Cruz murdered 16 kids and 1 teacher at Stoneman-Douglas High School in Parkland Florida



While awaiting trial for the massacre, Nikolas announced to the press that he had registered to vote Republican so he could vote for Trump/Pence and Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL) and Senator Rick Scott (R-FL). Mom said he was a good kid, until he started watching Fox News 24/7 and became withdrawn and bitter. She did all she could to help him through this troubling time in his life, but fate intervened.


Nikolas was born to a drug addicted teenager, but he was saved by a good woman who adopted him. His liberal Democrat adopted Mom thought she got him on the right path. Nikolas became an ROTC Cadet and earned good grades. Somewhat shy, he found making friends at times difficult. Occasionally, he was the object of bullies. But Mom was always there for him. Then it was discovered she had cancer, which eventually led to her death. Then the strangest thing happened, Nikolas put a Trump MAGA hat on his mom's urn and took a photo of it to make a statement. The reason this struck people as odd, his Mom hated Donald Trump and was no fan of Republicans.  


Nikolas and his adopted brother at bath time.






Before she died, Nikolas' Mom noticed he started watching Fox News 24/7 and became more and more right-wing. She hoped it was a phase and that he would grow out of. When his mom died, Nikolas had a paid for home to live in and enough money to pay his and his brother's expenses. The first thing people noticed, Nikolas began a fascination with guns and quickly obtained an arsenal any NRA Member would be proud of. 


Nikolas made a video immediately preceding the massacre, listen to his own words and try to fathom what is going on in his head. 






Neighbors called police on TRUMP MAGA hat wearing REPUBLICAN Nikolas Cruz 13 times for using live ammo target practicing in his crowded suburban Miami neighborhood. Not once did police arrest Nikolas for this crime. If they had, they would have seized his arsenal of guns and hopefully prevented the massacre at Parkland. But these right-wing Republican police officers didn't do their job. This photo was taken by one of Nikolas' Neighbors who wanted proof that Nikolas was firing a gun indiscriminately in his back yard, endangering neighbors and children.



33 comments:

Anonymous said...

The key to solving this case is connecting Sullivan to Allen. Ross was killer, ALA was the character. It all fits except I don't know how they met...

God's servant said...

There is no case. He's already in hell. He was a soldier for the evil One. There is no "Paradice" as the evil one whispered in his insane mind. Only matter in earthly minds. The matter of paying for your sins of murder is where they are and will be. You don't hurt innocent without having to pay. They attacked our brothers and sisters. They will pay. Probably his thoughts of torture was his own for knowing he shall pay. He will feel it all.

Anonymous said...

These comments make no sense and are not helpful. The two person theory is not plausible. And whether he is in "Hell" is irrelevant to the investigation.

Anonymous said...

You can piece together a certain amount of what must've happened to Ross when he was young from the Find A Grave website and examining the info on both his mother and father, and his mother and father's families and where they were all from. I somehow got the impression that the mother had abandoned the family and moved to California, where she apparently died, and that perhaps Ross had perhaps gone there looking for her.

But I guess perhaps the entire family had crisscrossed the country from New York to California, and that's where she died. I guess there's only so much you can glean from a website like Find A Grave.

Anonymous said...

Ross looks as a good suspect for CJB in Riverside. However, nothing ties him to Vallejo.

Also, the cops looked at Ross in the 1970’s and nothing came of it.

Androidboots said...

Ross Sullivan was over 300 lb at one point so no

Brian Keith O'Hara said...

Ross Sullivan was about 175 in 1960. He was on his High School Swimming Team, but 200 lbs in 1965-1970, by the early 1970's his weight ballooned up, eventually hitting 300 lbs immediately before he died in September 1977. His physical health declined sharply in conjunction with Pickwick's Syndrome, thank you, House MD, in the 1970's, by the mid 1970's Ross Sullivan was living in a nursing home.

Anonymous said...

That Ramona High School is in Riverside, CA., not in Ramona, California. Just to be clear.

Brian Keith O'Hara said...

Thanks, I have corrected that error.

Unknown said...

Hummm, Ross Sullivan as in 'Gilbert and Sullivan'? Is this another clue? also I don't see any mention of handwriting analysis comparison between the Cypher and when he worked in Riverside. Wasn't the victims of Lake Berryessa also driving a VW? The History Channel is making a mistake by not following up with a 2nd season.

Unknown said...

How about checking the DMV records on Ross Sullivan to see what vehicles he owned and the addresses they were registered to and compare them to what witnesses reported. How many other victims owned Volkswagen. What is the result of the DNA blood found on the Riverside victims pants recently?

Unknown said...

Just found out that the female victim at Lake Berryessa also attended The University of Riverside..?

Unknown said...

A former graduate of San Gabriel Academy, she was studying music at the University of California at Riverside.

Unknown said...

I guess nobody monitors this site?

Brian Keith O'Hara said...

I don't have the ability to do original research on the ground in California, I am assuming that information provided is valid, until I have evidence to the contrary. If I have doubts, I will try to research it as best I can.

Unknown said...

Thank you Brian for responding , fascinating subject.

mjohns said...

Ross was 6 or 7 years older than CJB no way he is hitting on her.

mjohns said...

According to the workers in the Library Ross drove a Motorcycle not a VW.

Brian Keith O'Hara said...

He owned more than one vehicle over the period and one of them was reputedly was a VW. Ross had no friends, his own age or any other age, his brother was his only friend, he knew CJB and it would be natural to ask or be fixed up on a date with her. As everyone in the library said, they didn't know him and his behavior was odd. As much as he didn't have friends, he didn't seem to want them either. If he scratch the scary poem in the desk top, then still waters did indeed run deep.

Unknown said...

My money's on Ross !!

Unknown said...

I dont think this has any bearing on The case , when u you like somebody it simple doesn't matter.

Anonymous said...

In 1968 my 30 year old father hit on my 21 year old mother, and thank God he did. They celebrate their 50th in a couple weeks. 6-7 years is no big deal for adults.

Kevin said...

My money’s on Kane!!!!!!!!!!

Unknown said...

Is it possible to obtain Ross Sullivan's death certificate, DMV printouts ? A lot of info can be gathered from them?? Let's try to solve this mystery ??

Jayshay said...

True brother

Anonymous said...

I have been following the RS lead since it was first mentioned, for many years now. According to the Information gathered online, it is simply Not true that He had no friends. He lived with the family of a famous Hollywood Script writer, the same people He shot the student movie with. Girls were interested in him, as even the librarian who wrote the letter notes to her own surprise. If I remember correctly, it was a woman who provided an alibi for him. That is why the police dropped him as suspect. You hear "mentally ill" and immediately think killer suspect, that's nonsense.

What should raise suspicion, though, and isnt even mentioned here, is that he reportedly skinned animals. Then again, society regards that as normal by inventing a "sport" called hunting. Good opportunity for actually sick people to hide in grey areas (and yes, when I say sick, I am speaking of anyone who loves killing creatures... )

Brian Keith O'Hara said...

Believe what you choose, the reports I've seen show him as a loner and volatile. His own brother suspected him. Watch the FACTUAL documentary on the Discovery Channel for the facts, which I perceive as simply and accurately told. People who worked with him at the college in Riverside said he had NO friends, but some others said he hung around his brother and interacted with his friends. Regrettably Cheri-Jo Bates was an acquaintance of his brother. Apparently, Ross asked her out on a date and she turned him down. I suspect that she heard that Ross spent 2 years in a Patton State Psychiatric/Mental Institution. Ask yourself, would you go out with a man/woman who had been mentally ill and was a loner? He would be arrested a few months later having a psychiatric break, naked and screaming nonsensical paranoid words that made no sense to anyone. I disagree with your analysis and conclusion. It is as simple as that, I think that you are 100% wrong. By the way, from the reports I've read, I can't find one girl who ever went out with him. Can you find one? What is her name and can I speak to her?

Unknown said...

Brian, what is the documentary on the Discovery Channel called? I want to check it out, thanks

Unknown said...

Is it the 'Hunt for the Zodiac Killer?

Brian Keith O'Hara said...

Yes, because it asks the right questions. Convinced me that Intrepid Reporter Dave Peterson was on the right track. I also have huge respect for SFPD Detective Dave Toschi. My question, why did Riverside Detectives discount Ross Sullivan as a suspect. They interviewed him once. They knew he was mentally ill and had spent a couple of years in a mental institution. But like I said crazy does NOT mean stupid.

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Brian, there was also a mound of evidence regarding his whereabouts in SF at the time of some of the murders. The Riverside Detectives have never divulged their suspect to my knowledge..

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https://screenrant.com/zodiac-movie-bryan-hartnell-cameo-when-where/

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https://zodiackiller.com/DarkAlley.html